tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13344062.post7907051547619902999..comments2024-02-18T17:35:25.382+00:00Comments on Bloggin fae the 'Burn: <i>Ulster-Scots thoughts</i>: "The Ulster Scot" - Home Rule era postcardMark Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12820251983224121718noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13344062.post-82378021114090140502018-04-12T22:50:23.939+01:002018-04-12T22:50:23.939+01:00Thank you Eamon, it has been good to converse with...Thank you Eamon, it has been good to converse with youMark Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12820251983224121718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13344062.post-71996909674347215662018-04-12T22:37:28.077+01:002018-04-12T22:37:28.077+01:00Thank you for your reply, I found it interesting a...Thank you for your reply, I found it interesting and thought-provoking. In case you didn't know, the article to which I referred to earlier is entitled: "Ulster blood, English heart-I am what I am."eamon kendallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501170920234197653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13344062.post-82707443917873286082018-04-12T22:20:09.161+01:002018-04-12T22:20:09.161+01:00Hello Eamon. Yes, I would agree that the English c...Hello Eamon. Yes, I would agree that the English cultural dimension has not been duly acknowledged, even the pre-'Plantation' English such as the many Anglo-Norman families who established the 'Earldom of Ulster' from the 12th century onwards, and perhaps also those who arrived in the Elizabethan era as well. <br /><br />In the Home Rule / Covenant era the role of significant Anglican figures is interesting, in that they were content to participate in the overtly Scottish Presbyterian symbolism which had been deployed. The man who came up with the concept, BWD Montgomery, was the son of the rector of Magheralin was as much of English extraction as Scottish, educated in England and served with an English regiment. Some high-ranking Church of Ireland clergy played a prominent role. <br /><br />Ulster is best understood as a blend of cultural influences, and indeed was generally recognised in the visual of interwoven Shamrock, Rose and Thistle very commonly from the early 1800s right up into the early 1970s - at which point the 'two tribes' political narrative came to dominate, and which I believe has distorted our understanding of our heritagesMark Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12820251983224121718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13344062.post-78368168311999611882018-04-12T19:20:15.879+01:002018-04-12T19:20:15.879+01:00In General, might I ask if you think that the Engl...In General, might I ask if you think that the English element has been underemphasized at the expense of the Scots? Personally, I believe that it has, to the detriment of people's understanding of their origins. P.S. I once read an article by Newton Emerson to this effect that you might find of interest if you hadn't already encountered it.eamon kendallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501170920234197653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13344062.post-19265567440730336192018-04-11T13:36:14.990+01:002018-04-11T13:36:14.990+01:00I would be interested to know if you were aware of...I would be interested to know if you were aware of any contemporaneous material which emphasized the English aspect of the Ulster Protestant inheritance? I imagine that if such material existed, that it would have had greater currency for the unionist communities in Fermanagh and Armagh.eamon kendallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501170920234197653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13344062.post-20767025687935778012018-03-13T21:47:25.658+00:002018-03-13T21:47:25.658+00:00Thanks for your comment - yes it is widely underst...Thanks for your comment - yes it is widely understood and critiqued as a contrived image of its time. It's unclear as to how widespread its usage was. Of more impact were writings such as WF Marshall's poem 'The Blue Banner'.Mark Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12820251983224121718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13344062.post-75118596509169461792018-03-13T16:33:31.058+00:002018-03-13T16:33:31.058+00:00This depiction of the "Ulster Scot" has ...This depiction of the "Ulster Scot" has more in common with a Jacobite Highlander Gael, the very sort of person that wold have been anathema to the actual ancestors of the majority of the Ulster protestants to whom the poster is aimed; namely, lowland Anglo-Saxon Scots speaking presbyterians. The poster is an ironic display of what an inadequate knowledge the contemporary unionist had of their own heritage; the result of this being the inchoate mish mash on display.eamon kendallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501170920234197653noreply@blogger.com